Published by Gabriel Oliveira
on May 28, 2021

FSW Draws Predictions for 2021

Since the pandemic hit, we've been seeing less and less of Federal Skilled Worker invitation rounds.

Which makes sense, considering all the travel restrictions currently in place.

So, IRCC just turned the focus into the immigration candidates already living in Canada temporarily, via PNP and CEC invitation rounds.

Why are all recent draws only for CEC and PNP?

Mainly 3 reasons:

Will FSW draws happen again?

Yes. The main reason for the pause is the pandemic.

The general expectation is that whenever the pandemic is under control, FSW draws ("no program specified") will resume.

A strong indicator of it, is that between July and December 2020, in between the first and second COVID-19 waves, we did get some FSW draws:

COVID-19 new cases numbers in Canada

When will FSW draws happen again?

The general expectation is that whenever the pandemic is over, FSW draws will resume.

But that's impossible to know for sure.

What will be the minimum score required for the next FSW draw?

That will depend on how many people will be invited.

The minimum score required on the last FSW invitation round ("no program specified"), in December 23rd 2020, was 468 points.

Does Canada only want students?

No. There are several streams focusing on international students, and the Minister of Immigration clearly said that Canada wants to turn their students into Permanent Residents:

But that doesn't mean skilled workers are out. Again, the "pause" is only due to the current global situation.

Should I just sit and wait for FSW draws?

I would say it is definitely worth waiting. And While FSW draws don't happen, take the time to improve your CRS score.

But if you can't wait to go to Canada, maybe consider other options such as PNP, or even going to Canada as a student first, and then becoming a Permanent Resident.


All the above analysis represent the personal view of the author.

Some of the IRCC directives are public, but the numbers and dates of invitation draws are not publicly available until the draw itself happens.


Festus Jun 05, 2021 10:24:21

Very helpful article. Hoping for FSW draws as my CRS is currently 478

Gabriel (Author) Jun 05, 2021 11:40:36

Thanks Festus, it was super fun to write it. 478 is a great score! There are only around 6 thousand people with score higher than that, so you should be invited really soon after they start calling FSW again :) Source:

Festus Jul 02, 2021 19:47:45

I did a remark on my IELTS and now my CRS is 481. Just can’t wait for the draws

Mujahid Sep 09, 2021 16:06:40

My CRS os 462, how much chance do i have to get selected as FSW?

Suhag patel Dec 05, 2021 08:46:40

My crs score is 478 How much chances of fsw draw?? When will start fsw draw??

Sowjanya Jun 05, 2021 14:02:40

My CRS score 481 i will get ITA for sure in the first draw of reopening the FSaw draws

Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 13:47:07

Wow that's a great score! :)) There are only around 6 thousand people with a score bigger than that! So, yeah, it is very likely that you will get an ITA when FSWs start again. Maybe not on the very first, depending on the number of invitations, but I'd say probably on the first 3 or 4 :D

Mohit Aug 23, 2021 07:46:24


Nik Sep 04, 2021 07:04:25

You got ITA?

Anonymous Jun 06, 2021 05:43:23

My score is 468. What are the chances for FSW draw?

marco Jun 07, 2021 05:20:38


Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 13:49:26

There are currently "only" around 15 thousand people with score above that. So the chances are really good! Also, that was exactly the minimum score required on the last draw, back in December 2020! Would be cool if you had a profile open then! But still, great chances :)

Janine Jun 06, 2021 11:56:09

My score is 424 , what are my chances for fsw

marco Jun 07, 2021 05:19:58

no chance

Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 13:51:44

Yeah, kind of agree with Marco on that one! Well, I wouldn't say "no chance", but it is very little. There are more than 50 thousand people with a score higher than that :\ Lot's of people creating profiles this year, and no draws, made the numbers kind of go a bit up. It can always go down though... I got in with "only" 427!!

Noname Jun 07, 2021 09:13:38

My score is 470 and in Jan 2022 I will turn 30 which will leave my score to 465 . So will I get FSW invitation this year

Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 13:52:35

Yeah, its' not a sure thing, but you definitely have a chance there! You have more than the last draw (468), for an example!

Eldho Jun 07, 2021 10:18:29

Hi, my score is 490, what could be chances of ITA in the first round ,in FSW, draw when it happen.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 13:53:32

Hi, you have very good chances! There are only around 3000 people with a score higher than that! Rooting for you here :)

Frederic Jun 07, 2021 15:03:11

Hello Gabriel My score is 443. Chances ?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 21:37:04

Hi Frederic! Hmm.. Currently 443 is not very promising :( There are 42 thousand people ahead of you on the EE entry. Its quite a lot. Maybe take the time to boost your score while FSW draws don't start again!

Friend Jun 07, 2021 15:45:10

My score is 452 , what are my chances

Gabriel (Author) Jun 07, 2021 21:39:29

Hey, so there are around 34 thousand people ahead of you. It's not super bad, but I wouldn't count with an ITA at the first draws. Maybe try to increase the score in the meanwhile! English and/or French are always good opportunities to get some extra points :)

Zahir Jun 08, 2021 09:25:44

Hey Gabriel Nice article, I would like you to make another article with detail research on how pool is divided and how far high skilled worker reached their cap. As per my knowledge we have 108,500 candidates (FSW & CEC). Mostly CEC finishing our cap. Thanks

Gabriel (Author) Jun 08, 2021 20:52:17

Hi Zahir, that's a great idea, I've added to the little to-do list here, thanks! Not sure if that's what you mean, but there are 166 thousand candidates on Express Entry!

Gho$T Jun 11, 2021 23:28:57

@Gabriel. I thing what Zahir means is for you to do an article detailing the current number of ITAs issued in comparison to the Immigration plan for 2021. Just to show the remaining spaces left for FSW this year. Its obvious that CEC has been taking up the entire EE slot.

Festus Jul 02, 2021 19:52:30

108k is target for number of candidates that will eventually land not number of ITAs. There’s no cap on number of invitations issued

Resmi Jun 09, 2021 01:33:28

My score is 466, what are my chances

Gabriel (Author) Jun 09, 2021 14:14:03

466 is not bad at all! You have around 15,000 of people ahead of you, which is not bad at all! Considering that they usually invite around 3,000 to 5,000 on each draw, you should (could?) get invited in no time! Hope FSW invitations start again soon! Good luck!

Vandita Arora Jun 09, 2021 06:21:05

Hey GAbriel, my score is 465, any chances of getting an ITA?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 09, 2021 14:14:48

Hi Vandita, Resmi (comment right above this one) asked the same thing, take a look at the answer there, please :)

FRBH Jun 09, 2021 11:03:09

Hi Gabriel, What would you advice to a score of 495? Shall wait for FSW to resume or go for PNP THANK YOU

Gabriel (Author) Jun 09, 2021 14:16:22

Wow that is a GREAT score! I would definitely wait for FSW! There are less than 3,000 people ahead of you! one draw of 3k, and you are in!

StarGazer Sep 05, 2021 13:59:27

That is an amazing score! Wishing you all the best.

Sambit Jun 09, 2021 13:53:44

Hi my score is 473. What would be my chances? Also my IELTS score expires this December (2021). Are the draws likely to happen before that? What if I get an ITA and while it's being processed, my IELTS expires?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 09, 2021 14:18:29

Hi, 473 is a good score! Last draw (December 2020) the minimum score was 468, so you would be in! There are 14 thousand people ahead of you, so really not that many, considering the usually invite 5,000 on each draw. A few draws, and you should be in! Still, if you can, keep trying to improve it, just to be on the safe side!

Gabriel (Author) Jun 09, 2021 14:22:32

Oh, about the IELTS, it needs to be valid on the date that you do the application! (after ITA). If it expired before, you definitely need to do a new one!

lais Jun 09, 2021 15:05:29

hey, great text! Do you think its probable that the FSW score will drop when it resumes? (maybe not at first, but after some draws?) Man, that CEC drop kinda set my hopes high

Gabriel (Author) Jun 10, 2021 17:31:15

Yeah that huge CEC was crazy! Not sure man, I feel like if they run out of CEC candidates (which might be happening right now), there's a chance of a huge FSW too (hoping for it TBH). But if there are still enough CEC candidates to call in the meanwhile, my guess is FSW will come back with the usual numbers (3k ITAs and around 470 score).

Styiilz Jun 10, 2021 08:39:36

Hi my CRS score is 476. What are my chances of getting an ITA?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 10, 2021 17:33:05

Hi, its a really good score, roughly 11,000 people ahead of you... nothing that a few draws can`t get rid of :D Also, last FSW draw (Dec 2020) was 468, so you missed it only for a few months!

SL Jun 10, 2021 17:42:11

Hi Gabriel, thanks for the very useful information you shared! I recently received my IELTS result but my EE score will be 481 only after I have three years work experience in September next year (2022). Considering my current IELTS will expire on May 2023, I will probably be on score 481 for just 5 to 8 months before my IELTS expries if I do not take it again (as I cannot guarantee I can get IELTS 8.5 every time). Do you think 481 for just 5-8 month at that time will be good enough to be drawn? Thank you very much for your opinion!

SL Jun 10, 2021 17:45:30

By the way, as FSW, before I reach 3 years experience, I only have 456 for now, so I guess before Sep next year, my chance will only be a potential huge FSW draw if any which we can only pray for, so I'm more focusing on my 481 score after September next year.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:55:29

Yeah, that's a tricky situation, you'll have only a few months on that sweet spot with a high score, right? I'd say instead of fully rely on "luck", try to repeat the (very impressive) IELTS result! If you did it once, you can do it twice! I know it's easier said than done though...

ALobo Jun 10, 2021 19:44:26

Hi, I have a CRS of 468 ... But I turn 30yrs in Jan 2022. ... My NOC is 1241 ... Please give me some time sensitive advise.... where before I age I could be in Canada ??

Gabriel (Author) Jun 14, 2021 22:20:42

Hey, yeah, you are gonna lose some points there on your birthday. But 468 (or 463) is not a bad score. I'd say try to get those 5 points back, and maybe even more with a second shot at IELTS, or French. Also try to check possible PNPs that might work for you.

Sac Aug 14, 2021 17:44:21

Do we loose points before ITA ?

Will Jun 11, 2021 09:42:26

Hi Gabriel. In one of your answers above, you said that you expect FSW scores to be 470 when they do eventually resume them. Does that mean that for those who have <470 (I have 468), that it'll just take a bit longer for us to be invited? I'm not sure exactly how the draw works, but would they essentially invite all the 470s and then reduce the score down to the 460s? If that is the case, surely it'll be years before I get invited because the pool has been growing and growing due to hardly any draws taking place in the last year and there'll be a lot more candidates (more than pre-pandemic) with higher scores? Hope that makes sense!! Thanks in advance.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 14, 2021 22:25:34

Hi Will, It is a bit tricky indeed... So, they will always invite the top X scorers. So if lots of people constantly create profiles > 470, what you said would happen - the minimum score would always be > 470. It's an offer-demand "battle". Your best shot is to try to improve your score constantly.

Abinesh Jun 11, 2021 12:47:04

Hey Gabriel my bio metrics were done in Feb 2021 RPRF also paid in March I am FSW candidate via express entry the progress bar showed July 4 2021 but now there is nothing at all no updates at all what do u think I can still get ppr mail around July end of expected processing time?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 14, 2021 22:27:07

Hi, no idea how the process times are going. Maybe try to open an "IRCC web form" if you feel like something might be wrong with your case.

Jona Jun 11, 2021 15:01:46

Hey, when you say the invites for FSW will be sent when pandemic is over? You dont believe the invites will be send this year? My score is 480

Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:46:42

Hi Jona, I believe they are waiting for the pandemic to be under control to bring in people from abroad. When that's going to happen is still not clear, but I believe we are on the right track to get it still in 2021. Vaccinations are going good, restrictions being lifted, number going down... all good signs!

Vik Jun 12, 2021 00:49:53

Going through the comments it seems unlikely that I would ever get a FSW invitation with my score of 406. I have applied for Saskatchewan PNP. Would I atleast get that?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:48:07

Yeah 406 is not very promising. PNP is definitely the way to go, kind as plan B. I don't know details about any specific PNP (they are hard to keep track), but I'd say you are on the right track.

Kala Jun 12, 2021 17:14:44

Chances of getting an invitation in 2021 for a score of 458. Age 32

Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:49:04

I've recently wrote an article about that: (it's about 460, but close enough!)

YoN Jul 14, 2021 02:21:00

I have same score but 29, which probably doesn’t matter . Hoping for a invite😊

Neel Nov 29, 2021 01:48:42

Hey I do have the same score as well . It’s just that since it’s been sucha long time with fsw draw , we never know what the score might be . Hoping for the best either way !!!

Anonymous Jun 14, 2021 17:16:41

I have a CRS score of 478, as per your previous response to Sowjanya you had mentioned 3rd or 4th draw based on the candidates in the pool. The current pool shows 700+ candidates with more than 600 CRS score. Would they be included as well when there would be a No Program Specified draw? Or is it just CEC and FSW candidates eligible for the No specified program draw?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:49:59

"No Program Specified" includes all programs, so those 700+ would indeed be included on it! That's a great question, BTW.

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Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:51:44

Google translator tells me that means "Sister's Fudd Canada", but I'm still not sure what you mean :D. Can you write in English, please? Sorry about that.

Ravneet Sharma Jun 15, 2021 13:23:14

My score is 446

Gabriel (Author) Jun 15, 2021 13:53:15

Hi Ravneet, 446 is not very promising :( There are 42 thousand people with more than that on the EE entry, which is a bit too much. Maybe try to increase it while FSW draws are still "in pause". Good ways of doing it is second shots at IELTS and/or French.

Jb Jun 15, 2021 14:24:16

Hi There, I have 425 points at the moment and by looking at above comments, I am not in a good position to be nominated directly. What are the chances for PNP and how much time it will take for the whole PNP process? TIA

Gabriel (Author) Jun 17, 2021 17:01:12

Hey there. Yeah 425 is a tough one... I got invited with 427 though, so totally possible! Chances for PNP will depend on which stream you are aiming at, and your specific profile. And about the time, usually your would be landing around 6 months after ITA, but now everything is kind of stacked up, so really hard to tell.

Karen Jun 15, 2021 15:22:04

Thanks for this informative and hopeful article!

Gabriel (Author) Jun 17, 2021 17:01:28

No problem at all! Thank you for the nice comment!

Shan Jun 16, 2021 04:35:28

Hi Gabriel, My score is 474. Although come this August it will drop down to 469. Would you say it is still a good score. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 17, 2021 17:03:07

Hi Shan, 469 is still a pretty solid score! Last FSW draw (December 2020) was 468, so I'd say it's a matter of time for you to be invited! But still won't hurt to try to improve it :D Good luck!

HK Jun 16, 2021 08:17:00

Hi, my score is 487, what could be chances of ITA in the first round ,in FSW, draw when it happen.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 17, 2021 17:04:46

Hi, that's a really good score! There are less than 10k people ahead of you, so if they do a medium-to-big draw, you are in! Even if they do "normal" draws, with around 3-5k invitations, it would only be a matter of time before you get an ITA. Great score!

jigs Jun 16, 2021 10:25:53

Hi my score is 473. is there any chance to get ITA before September 2021 ????

Gabriel (Author) Jun 17, 2021 17:05:49

Hi, there is a chance, sure! But I wouldn't count on it before September. I mean, it could happen, but we better expect the best, and be prepared for the worst, right? Really hope it happens though!

Mao_sk Jun 17, 2021 14:40:01

Hello, my score is 535 is there any chance to be in the first draws, i ve submitted my application on june 2nd. Thank you !

Gabriel (Author) Jun 17, 2021 17:07:07

Heck yeah!! There are less than 3 thousand people ahead of you! So pretty sure you'll get an ITA on the first draws! Make sure you have all the docs to prove the stuff you have on your profile! Awesome score man, really.

Baljeet Jun 18, 2021 16:31:03

Hi, my score is 474 , any advice for me. And do you have any idea when will FSW will be done?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 21, 2021 17:03:18

Hi Baljeet, no idea with FSW will be done. My personal guess is somewhere still this year, but it is really impossible to know! And yea, 474 is a pretty solid score, congrats! The advice is always try to improve it as much as possible, just to be on the safe side!

Merrin Jun 18, 2021 16:33:19

Hello, my score is 464.Is there any chance to be invited this year?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 21, 2021 17:05:01

Hey 464 is not a bad score! Chance of invitation will depend on if they resume FSW or not (hope they do!). Again, it is a good score, but it won't hurt if you still try to improve it, just to be on the safe side! Once IELTS centers reopen, I'm guessing there will be a lot of new profiles being created daily!

NJ Jun 19, 2021 16:33:37

Hey, my score is 481. I entered the pool in Feb 2021, but wrote IELTS in March 2020. Considering my IELTS is going to expire, do you recommend I write it again? Hoping for a FSW draw soon.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 21, 2021 17:05:41

Hi! Yeah, I would definitely do another IELTS, just to be on the safe side. Who knows how long this pause is gonna take, right. Congrats on the great score though!

Girish Jun 19, 2021 20:07:43

Hello. Given the good news of vaccinations and lower COVID cases in Canada, when do you expect FSW draws and a score of 472 to get through? My IELTS is going to expire in December 2021. Also, wanted to know what month should be a hard stop to give a re exam?,given it takes 2 months to submit the application and I am okay till the score drops to 472 till September.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 21, 2021 17:06:55

Hey, I would do the IELTS as soon as possible (December is right around the corner!). About FSW expectations, it's really a guessing game by now, but my guess (hope?) is it will resume still this year. Good luck!

Arnab Chakraborty Jun 21, 2021 14:15:53

Hi. Hope you're well. I currently have 478 points and have lodged my EOI in March of this year. What do you think my chances are to get an invite ? Also do you think it is possible that FSW class will not be invited at all this whole year ? I will be turning 30 next January so will lose points there.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 21, 2021 17:07:31

Hi Arnab, all good here, thanks, hope you are doing good too! It is definitely possible that there will be no FSW invitations this year. I personally believe there will still be, mostly because vaccination campaigns are going really good. But it's impossible to predict though. It sucks to lose points because of age... but still 467 is a solid score. Wish I could tell you a more definitive answer, but it is what it is... Good luck! rooting for you here 🙂

Hemant Jun 21, 2021 20:44:37

Hi Gabriel. My score is 488. How do my chances look to be selected for FSW invitation in earliest draw?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 23, 2021 13:41:39

Hi, I'll just copy an answer from a previous comment around the same score, ok? Here it goes: That's a really good score! There are less than 10k people ahead of you, so if they do a medium-to-big draw, you are in! Even if they do "normal" draws, with around 3-5k invitations, it would only be a matter of time before you get an ITA. Great score!

Deval Patel Jun 22, 2021 10:15:43

What about CRS 468 ? Any chance in FSW ?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 23, 2021 13:44:30

Hi Deval, 468 is an "ok" score. I mean, not super great, but definitely not bad at all! Last minimum score (December 2020) it was the minimum score, so you'd likely be in if you had a profile back then. So yeah, you definitely have a chance! But still, there are 16 thousand people ahead of you, so if you can boost it in anyway, that would help.

JP Jun 22, 2021 19:43:32

Hey Gabriel. Greetings for the day. My score is 502 but my IELTS gonna expire on November 16. I tried really hard in getting a super band of 9,9,9,7.5 in my IELTS exam but the problem is I would turn 36 on November 16 this year and my IELTS would expire on December 1. What would you suggest apart from reappearing for IELTS.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 23, 2021 13:46:05

Hey there, so you gonna lose a few for the age, and maybe some from the IELTS (if you don't go as good as the previous). Age there is nothing you can do about it, so I'd say study and practice as much as you can the IELTS format, and if you can maybe consider adding some French to your skills belt. That will definitely compensate for the age loss.

Shabina Jun 22, 2021 19:49:19

Hi there my score 316,any chances in pnp?and which one? Thank you

Gabriel (Author) Jun 23, 2021 13:47:17

Hi Shabina. For PNP yeah you have a chance. If you get a provincial nomination your score would go to 916, so heck yeah! you have a chance! Now which one will depend on your profile. There is no way around it - you will have to google PNPs one by one, and see the ones that might work for you.

Muhammad Arslan Jun 23, 2021 12:14:13

My score for FST is 453 waiting for draw. What are my chances of getting an ITA

Gabriel (Author) Jun 23, 2021 13:48:28

Hi Arslan, I'd say right now 453 you have chances, but they are really not good. There are more than 35 thousand people ahead of you, and profiles get created daily! So, I`d definitely try to boost it!

Courtney Jun 23, 2021 19:59:37

Hi Gabriel, I have a score of 471 and turn 30 in May 2022. What do you think my chances are getting an ITA before my bday? Also, can you see how many people in the pool are for CEC?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:51:16

Hey Courtney, yeah I think there are really good chances of an ITA for you before May! 471 is a solid score. Ideally for you FSW draws would start before IELTS centers reopen around the globe, which I believe there are good chances of that happening! About number of people running for CEC, I don't think there's a way of knowing that level of detail. AFAIK, we just get to see how many people are in total by score range.

Dhvani Jun 24, 2021 03:40:58

Hi Gabriel, Thanks for sharing this article... I have got an offer letter from alberta, I am outside Canada, AINP draw takes place but do they consider people like us those who are not in canada?? Am I Eligible to get PNP from Alberta?? When Will be FST draw?

Courtney Jun 24, 2021 07:48:27

I heard they're not processing outland applications for AINP but give it a go. A job offer is the best motivation to get PNP.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:52:23

Hi, I'm really not sure about details of any of the PNPs - they are so many it's hard to keep track. No idea about FST draws either... Those haven't happen for a while now, so I wouldn't count on it.

Dhvani Jun 24, 2021 12:18:23

Thank you...

Sn@123 Jun 24, 2021 19:26:34

My score will be around 457. What are my chances to pursue

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:52:48

Hm not that good, please read comments above - there are a few around that range.

Fahad Jun 25, 2021 12:07:51

Hey. My CRS is 475. Do I have a chance in FSW?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:53:18

Hey yeah, you have chances. Please read comments above, there are a few around that range.

Sehr Jun 25, 2021 16:35:54

Hi Gabriel, Thank you for the article. It cleared many of my doubts. Just need some more clarification on my future course of action. My CRS is 449 currently and I'll lose 5 more points in August. Should I wait for FSW or expect PNP? Or should I take up studies in Canada and go the CEC route? My current age is 33

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:55:03

Hi there, no problem at all, a pleasure to write this. In your situation I would try to improve the score somehow (English, French, etc), wait on FST, and also start looking into PNPs to see if any available stream fit your profile. CEC would be the last option. But all of those are very personal (in my case $ is a big issue, and CEC costs a lot).

Rak Jun 25, 2021 16:43:21

Hello Gabriel, My CRC score is 364 and NOC code is 3113, is there any chance in AINP Draw.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:55:40

Hi, I'm really not into details of any of the PNP streams, so I really wouldn't know. They are so many it's hard to keep track. Sorry, wish I could help more.

Gurnam Jun 27, 2021 12:52:11

I am too in the journey of FSW draw with the CRS of 542. Hope our station will arrive soon.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:55:53

Rooting for you man, good luck!

Anu Jovio Jun 28, 2021 02:19:01

Hii... i am Anu. My score is 471 for FSW. I will turn 31 on october 3rd. What is my chance of getting an ITA before that.

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:56:21

Hi Anu, you have some chances, but I wouldn't count on it. October is right around the corner.

Aquib Jun 28, 2021 09:40:23

Any chance with 465 score

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:56:37

Hi, please read comments above. There are a few around that range.

NavKAt Jun 28, 2021 11:36:46

Any chance with 455 points?? I lost 5 points last month with my DOB. When can I realistically expect an invite, if so?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 28, 2021 15:57:36

Hi, with 455 I wouldn't expect an ITA. There is a chance, of course. But I wouldn't rely on luck, and instead would try to boost it to 470s at least.

Pooja Vora Jun 28, 2021 20:13:37

Hi Gabriel, Age - 27 CRS - 479 I need to extend my work contract in my current country of residence. What are the odds of getting through in the next draw?

Gabriel (Author) Jun 30, 2021 13:53:37

Hi there. Regardless of your score, I wouldn't make arrangements counting on an ITA (even with a really good score). That aside, 479 is a good score, there are only around 6 thousand people ahead of you, so chances of getting invited on the firsts draws are really good!

Ravneet Sharma Jun 29, 2021 08:16:28

Hi Gabriel, My crs score is 446 and I m working in a laboratory as a pathologist lab assistant , is there any chance PNP draw

Gabriel (Author) Jun 30, 2021 13:54:27

Hi there, to get invited on an EE PNP draw you must have a nomination from a province. Do you have one? If you do, the chances of being invited are really big :)

Ben Jul 01, 2021 00:11:17

Hi gabriel. My CRS is 530 though i may lose some points in october because of my birthday. I received a LAA(letter of advise to apply) from Manitoba. Do you advise i wait for FSW or i consider PNP for Manitoba given that i have 60 days to accept the LAA from manitoba and apply and don't know when FSW will resume. Thanks

Gabriel (Author) Jul 02, 2021 16:32:53

Hey Ben, congrats for both the 530 score and LAA! I would confirm if one doesn't impact the other (I'm really not sure). If you find that they are fully independent (meaning if you apply for Manitoba it doesn't impact a possible FSW ITA), I'd apply for Manitoba, and if an ITA comes your way through FSW, abort Manitoba and apply to FSW. Does that make sense? If you find out that one does impact the other, I would stick to the safest, which seems to be Manitoba in this case. But still, very personal, and lots of uncertainties to be confirmed before making a decision. Might be a good option to talk to a professional consultant just to make sure you don`t burn out such a good situation you are at right now (great score + LAA). Hope it makes sense!

Ani Jul 01, 2021 16:41:19

Hi Gabriel, My CRS score is 438 and here if I get master equivalence my score moves 478. I am facing issues to calrify the doubt. 1) I was started my second master in year Oct- 2017 to March-2019 here I was completed only 4 semester I was taken semester break April 2019 to March 2021 I was taken 2 years of gap. Note : Wes free equivalence tool it was asking me how many years of study: 1,2,3 years it showing me only 3 options. Finally I was taken to complete my master course 4 years from Oct-2017 to Aug-2021 ( I got 2 years gap in this duration) Note: Regular Master course 2 years and but here I was taken to complete my course 4 years do I get master equivalence in Wes or not? Thanks in advance!!

Gabriel (Author) Jul 02, 2021 16:34:45

hi, not sure if I got your question right, but regardless the time you took to get the degree, it seems like 2 years is the duration of it. Also, these estimations are just that - estimations. The safest for you would be to do the ECA and see what comes out of it.

Ani Jul 01, 2021 16:41:22

Hi Gabriel, My CRS score is 438 and here if I get master equivalence my score moves 478. I am facing issues to calrify the doubt. 1) I was started my second master in year Oct- 2017 to March-2019 here I was completed only 4 semester I was taken semester break April 2019 to March 2021 I was taken 2 years of gap. Note : Wes free equivalence tool it was asking me how many years of study: 1,2,3 years it showing me only 3 options. Finally I was taken to complete my master course 4 years from Oct-2017 to Aug-2021 ( I got 2 years gap in this duration) Note: Regular Master course 2 years and but here I was taken to complete my course 4 years do I get master equivalence in Wes or not? Thanks in advance!!

Ani Jul 01, 2021 16:43:29

Hi Gabriel,

Ani Jul 01, 2021 16:43:29

Hi Gabriel,

Punit Jul 02, 2021 11:54:53

Hey Gabriel, I read almost all of the questions from people and tried to find the one that might relate me the best but I couldnt find that specific question. So, I have 370+ some points and I have also uploaded my file for PNP (Saskatchewan) and my score there is 68 points. My NOC is 1212. Can you please give some tips to get myself nominated by a province ? my profile expires in November 2021.

Gabriel (Author) Jul 02, 2021 16:37:29

Hi Punit, thanks for taking the effort to go through the questions before asking :) Yeah 370 is a low score, and I think you are doing the right thing aiming at PNPs now. But there are so many streams that is hard to keep track, so I really can't help you much sorry. I believe there is no way around of just going through the existing PNP streams one by one and crossing them out as you go through it. Another option would be to get some help from a professional consultant - they know all the ins and outs, and will probably be in a better position to advise you. Again, wish I could help you more!

panwar Jul 02, 2021 13:39:25

any updates when to expect next FSW round?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 02, 2021 16:38:08

hey, not really... I just wrote this article the other day talking a bit more on that topic:

Anonymous Jul 02, 2021 18:06:07

Hey Gabriel, My crs score is 472 and I will be turning 30 this December. So to find a probability of my changes for an ITA as FSW I tried some math. Considering a news I read somewhere that Canada is planning for 400000 immigrants by the end of 2021, I counted the number of ITAs issue from jan 2021. It was around a lakh. So like the news quoted, we have 3lakh ITAs left and 6months left for year-end... There must be around 50000 ITAs issued a month.. Which is next to impossible. But looking at CEC preferred draw in feb this year where 27000 were issued ITAs.. Is there a chance for FSWs to get lucky the same way??!! I know I think a lot.. But was being practical here. :p

Gabriel (Author) Jul 06, 2021 17:07:19

Hey there! Wow loved the logic!! But there are some flaws there... here it goes: 1 - Those 400k are not fully for Express Entry. Family Sponsorship, Refugees, and other programs take around half of it. Which leaves us with ~200k for 2021. 2 - Each ITA usually has dependents (spouse, kids, etc), so 200k immigrants might mean 100k ITAs (for an example, we can`t tell exactly). 3 - 100k ITAs for 12 months gives us around 8k ITAS per month, which is what we've kinda been seeing. Makes sense? Still, 472 is a good score!

Uday Jul 04, 2021 04:41:48

Hi Gabriel, My crs score is 472, But I have past student visa refusals for Canada. does it effects my express entry ITA or COPR in any way?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 06, 2021 17:09:41

Hi, I'm really not sure how that affects you... Sorry, wish I could help more.

Ronak patel Jul 08, 2021 13:11:37

Hi You have an idea when fsw draw will start in 2021?

Christopher Jul 08, 2021 15:13:58

Amir Jul 11, 2021 06:31:53

Hi, What if I apply for a Master's degree while I am in the pool with 467 CRS score, waiting for a fsw draw? Is there any risk of visa refusal because of dual intention?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 12, 2021 17:13:22

Hi there, I don't think it should be an issue, but really not 100% sure! Might be worth to double-check with a consultant just to be on the safe side!

Ritu Jul 12, 2021 04:53:16

Hey! My CRS score is 487. For how long I have to wait for ITA in FSW category?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 12, 2021 17:14:42

Hi there, impossible to tell how long it will take. But 487 is a really good score! You'll probably get an invitations on the firsts draws!!

Ritu Jul 12, 2021 04:53:19

Hey! My CRS score is 487. For how long I have to wait for ITA in FSW category?

Aman Jul 12, 2021 06:31:42

Hey, I have a score of 461 with my spouse profile, any chances there? Do you see a trend of scores dropping since its been a while

Gabriel (Author) Jul 12, 2021 17:15:42

Hey there, yeah scores are dropping, but we've been getting mostly CEC invitations. I just wrote an article the other day about 460, check it out:

Fan Jul 12, 2021 08:35:35

Hello Gabriel, Can you give me some tips on how to boost my CRS? I am completing 33 years next month.

Gabriel (Author) Jul 12, 2021 17:16:46

hey Fan. Man that age criteria stinks, right? I'd say English and French are the way to go... If you already squeezed as much as possible on those two, probably education would be the next one. But yeah, English and French!

Smeet Jul 14, 2021 08:33:16

Bro my crs is 472 and badly waiting for fsw draw. When will the fsw draw resume exactly ?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 14, 2021 14:28:13

Not a bad score! It's impossible to say when it will be back!

anmol Jul 16, 2021 06:23:10

hi I am a pharmacist by profession and want to apply to Manitoba PNP but I have no friends in Manitoba. but without 10 points my score is already up to 67 points. what should I do?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 19, 2021 22:09:09

Hi, I'm not into details of any of the PNPs (there are so many, it's hard to keep track!). But I'd say everytime we don't have enough points, the problem itself gives us the solution - chase points. English, French, whatever... Unfortunately there is no way around it. Unless come in as a student, but that can be super expensive!

Carol Jul 16, 2021 17:44:10

Hi, I have already been invited in Oct, 2020. When do you think the government will resume reviewing applications? Thank you!

Gabriel (Author) Jul 19, 2021 22:10:05

hi Carol, congratulations! I'm really not into details on how that's going... been focusing more on the pre-ITA side of things lately... But anyway, it's just a matter of time now, the worst part (ITA) is done for you! Congratulations again, sorry I can't help more.

Prachi Jul 23, 2021 03:52:14

Hi, My CRS is 478 with 3 year work experience plus I have kept everything ready as far as finances are concerned as well. What do you think will be in my case ?? Thankyou

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:53:09

Hi, 478 is a good score, real chances of getting invited for FSW. I'd just wait for it, and in the meanwhile try to improve it even more, if you can

Doc Jul 23, 2021 16:59:32

Hey Gabriel, i have a score of 488, how many people do you think come above that? Like would i get through the first draw?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:54:22

That's a great score! Congrats! Only 4000 people in front of you - I'd say you are in on first or second draw.

Dennis Jul 23, 2021 18:43:09

I am currently in Canada doing PhD. I did the ielts and have the crs of 459. Can I still apply for FSW program because I dont see any draw from there. What are my chances.

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:55:29

Yeah you can still apply. Draws stopped since the pandemic hit, but hopefully they will pick up soon. Score of 459 is not that great though.. I recommend you try to boost it somehow... maybe English of French?

Moha Jul 23, 2021 19:00:51

Hi Gabriel, My CRS score is 481 and this august 19th I will be 30 yrs also my IELTS will be expiring this December what are my chances for the FSW to draw any suggestions and any update when do u think the FSW draws will resume.

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:56:52

Hi Moha, that's a great score! Even with the age loss, still pretty good. I'd do another IELTS right now, aiming at least to keep your current score. Once FSW picks up (I think it's right around the corner), you should get in on firsts draws. Again, great score!

Manu Jul 25, 2021 04:59:16

My Current Score is 467 with Spouse. So can i apply single applicant or can i wait for 467 score? As single my score will increased to 481. Pls suggest

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:57:38

Hi Manu (same name as my daughter :)) You need to add your spouse no matter what... Cuz if you don't he won't be able to go with you :\

Mounty29 Jul 26, 2021 01:33:54

My spouse and I have a combined CRS score of 476 and I am the primary applicant. I will turn 30 in November and will loose 5 pts. We both have masters and have given IELTS. Anything else we can do to make up the 5 points lost assuming there isnt a draw between now and November

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:58:47

The age rule stinks right... If you both already have masters (impressive!), I'd say hit the English and French, those are kind of the best (most efficient) ways of boosting the score.

Darshan Patel Jul 26, 2021 04:35:04

My spouse and I have a combined CRS score of 462 in FSW and I am the Spouse applicant. I have put file on 19th may 2021. We both have masters and have given IELTS. when will Draws conduct for FSW in2021?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 16:59:24

Impossible to tell when, only IRCC knows. But I feel/guess/sense/hope (lol) it's right around the corner!

Darshan Patel Jul 26, 2021 04:35:59

What are the chances for FSW draw?

Clement Jul 26, 2021 06:17:14

Hi I’m waiting for a FSW draw but I’m already in Canada. I don’t understand why they don’t consider people like me.

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 17:00:06

Do you have 1 year work experience here? If not, aim for it! You'll then be eligible for CEC!

Farshad Aug 11, 2021 00:05:33

Same issue Clement.

Louane Simone Rodrigues Jul 26, 2021 17:43:06

My husband and I have a score of 437 - doubt there’s a chance.

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 17:00:32

Yeah, that's not a great score... I'd definitely try to boost it! Maybe English or French?

Idriss Jul 27, 2021 16:13:14

Hello i have a CRS of 480. Do you think it is enough to get invited?

Gabriel (Author) Jul 27, 2021 17:01:32

Hey. Heck yeah! That's a great score! Only 6 or 7 thousand ahead of you... Nothing that a few draws (or a big one) can't handle. But still, won't hurt if you try to improve it even more.

Manu Jul 27, 2021 18:58:54

My Current Score is 467 with Spouse. So can i apply single applicant or can i wait for 467 score? As single my score will increased to 481. Pls suggest As per your answer i understand. Can I call my spouse under sponsor your spouse category that will take upon 12 months of time. Any other way to call my spouse ? Pls tell me any other suggestion.

Gabriel (Author) Aug 02, 2021 16:54:56

Hi, so I don't think there's other way besides the sponsorship.. I mean, he (the spouse) could try a profile of his own, but probably wouldn't have enough points, right? I guess you could try the sponsorship thing and have him wait at least part of the process as a tourist. But to be honest, I would just try to boost your score as a whole. You see, agents analyzing applications want things to be as clear and honest as possible... so these little hacks are always risky even if within the law. Also might be a good idea for you to reach out to a consultant to get their intake on it! Just to make sure you don't close any doors you know?

Grace Jul 29, 2021 13:54:53

Hi, I applied for permanent residence since Nov 2020, at first they were issuing visas for people within three months but they stopped in January after giving visas to those that applied in October. do you think there is a chance of me getting my visa before the end of August this year?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 02, 2021 16:56:17

Hi, it's hard to tell, things are messed up since the pandemic hit right... At least you got the hard part (ITA) out of the way! But i know all the waiting doesn't help on the planning... Wish I could help more, sorry.

Resmi Mathew Jul 29, 2021 16:57:11

Hi, I am already in Canada on work permit and my current score is 466. I have 1 year of experience as well. But the problem is it doesn't comes under noc b. It is 1414 (Hospital Admitting Clerk). And IRCC have not started the fsw draw. I am getting anxious because I am losing points because of age. Is there something that I can do now?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 02, 2021 16:57:43

I know what you mean... The age thing stinks! Really not sure about your options though.. I'd maybe try to see if your NOC fits any of the PNP streams on the province you are at. That and try to boost score any other way (English or French for an example).

Manu Aug 02, 2021 17:45:51

I can understand your Answer. If i apply as a single applicant, and i received PR. They when can i apply for the Spouse sponsorship. And how much time it take for the process. And at time of process start then can i apply for Visitor Visa for spouse and what is the chance to get visitor visa?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 05, 2021 14:28:17

Hm... really not sure about those... I definetly need to get more familiar with other types of visa (I focus mostly on Permanent Residence through Express Entry). It might be a good option for you get some professional help on this one! There are links to some consultants on the "consultants" page (link on the top), maybe they can give you a hand on those. All paid services though :| Sorry, wish I could help you more!

Resmi Mathew Aug 02, 2021 19:18:22

I just gave my Ielts and got 8, 7,7,7. So my only option is French. I am in Ontario. I even tried to apply with TR to PR pathway. But ircc just avoided few noc like housekeeping, admitting clerks e.t.c. I was so disappointed when IRCC excluded us. I am frontline worker and still got excluded. It would be good if any of the PNP streams can help me...

Gabriel (Author) Aug 05, 2021 14:29:33

I feel you... really frustrating! I day yeah, French is the way to go! and maybe try IELTS again... get work experience on a NOC that works for some PNPs... you being already in Canada there are definitely more options to be explored!

Gerrard Payne Aug 05, 2021 10:09:54

It's not safe to bring PR candidates from outside but it's safe to bring in international students?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 05, 2021 14:30:50

Give this man a prize!!! TOTALLY AGREE with you!!! Perfectly put... Think I'll even do a post about that on Instagram, if that's ok with you. Thanks!

Yamini Aug 05, 2021 19:55:35

Hey. I have almost 2.5 years of experience but 7-8 months is mostly part time paid consultant. Will that be counted in my total experience? And also if I take I full time job parallel, will that create any problem for me?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 09, 2021 18:26:02

Hi Yamini! So, part time counts too! Even if as a consultant - as long as the duties and responsibilities match the NOC you are applying for, and as long as the total hours sum 1560 hours (equivalent to 1 year full time). Also, no problem if you take jobs in parallel, but at the end, it won't count anything above 30h/week! These rules can be super confusing, I know. Check out this link - it has all the rules there:

Extremely anxious Sep 02, 2021 12:28:49

Hi. Did you mean that you’re looking for a separate fulltime job now that might not match with your last NOC? Also, what’s your current CRS coming to? I’m in a similar dilemma.

Vikas Chaudhary Aug 06, 2021 11:13:18

My Wife Current CRS score is 464. she is in the pool since last Sptember 2020. what are her Chances. She, is B.D.S with 7+ years experience . Her application is getting expire on September 20th 2021. also she is loosing 5 points again in October due to her Age.

Gabriel (Author) Aug 09, 2021 18:27:36

So, she will probably need to do another profile in September, because chances of getting an ITA until then are really low. New profile will come with same points though... It's not bad, but not perfect. Check out this article - it will give you an idea of how many people are ahead of you guys:

Kedarnath Aug 09, 2021 18:51:10

My score is 476, what are the chances of getting the ITA.

Gabriel (Author) Aug 16, 2021 16:11:59

Hi, around 14 thousand people ahead of you, so it's not bad at all! Nothing that a few draws (or maybe a big one) can't handle! Still totally worth it to try improve it... Mostly because new people create profiles daily, you know what I mean?

Jeevan Aug 10, 2021 07:18:12

My score is 479.. what are the chances of getting an ITA this year..??

Gabriel (Author) Aug 16, 2021 16:12:49

Hi, not sure about this year, because we are all waiting to see when FSQW ill come back! But when it does, you have really good chances. Read the comment above this, Kedarnath has a score vey similar to yours!

Himani Aug 10, 2021 14:33:28

Hi My current CRS score is 387 and I filed the application on 15 July. What are my chances of getting invitation from canada provinces

Gabriel (Author) Aug 16, 2021 16:14:12

Hi there. So with 378, FSW is way out of your reach... But PNPs, sure! It will depend on your profile. The best you can do is go through each province website, and see which streams might work for you. Most of them require you to send an Expression of Interest (EOI), so they won't invite you directly only with an EE profile. Makes sense?

hi Aug 18, 2021 08:47:14

I assume that you are from India, from your name. I am an Indian too with almost similar score. can you share your Insta ID or Email ID ? I have a few questions, maybe you can help. Or you can reach me on Insta my ID is the_monsoon_frog

Sumitha Aug 11, 2021 05:02:17

Hi Gabriel. Thank you for the great article! I have a CRS of 484 and have been in the pool since April 2021. Recently, in July to be specific, IRCC had updated the funds required for EE. But unfortunately, I couldn't update the funds within the deadline (I was just $49 short!). However, my profile still showed that I was eligible and I was finally able to update the amount 4 days after the deadline. Does this deem my profile ineligible for future FSW draws? What are your views on this? My profile has always showed "All criteria have been met".

Gabriel (Author) Aug 16, 2021 16:16:25

Hi Sumitha! Hm... That is a good question... I really don't know, sorry about that. I know any penny counts, but in this specific case, I really recommend you asking a trusted consultant. Because it's very specific, and just to make sure you don't lose it all over 49 bucks! Sorry, wish I could help you more. But a consultant will for sure. Let me know if you need a recommendation!

Farshad Aug 11, 2021 13:29:42

Hi Gabriel, Thank you for your support in advance. My CRS score is 474. I have applied with my wife for fsw. Due to the current situation, do you think our score is enough or it needs to be increased?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 16, 2021 16:17:56

Hi, I think it *might* be enough, but you don't want to count with the egg on the chicken butt. Lol is that a saying on your country? What I mean is, it's not bad at all (read a comment someone asked 3 or for above this one - they have a similar score). But I would definitely try to boost it somehow, just to be on the safe side.

Farshad Aug 17, 2021 16:28:33

LOL, no we don't have this in Persian. But it was a good one, can be added potentially:) I get what you mean, I try to boost the score. Considering that we are international students here in Canada, is the any opportunity to benefit from this in terms of crs score?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 20, 2021 21:45:04

Oh yeah, there are some points for international students. Check out this page: At the very bottom, on the "additional points" section!

Anxiousforinvitation Aug 18, 2021 09:19:58

hello , My score is 521 .From reading the comments i guess it s a very good score. Crossing fingers for a soon FSW draw. Good luck for everyone!

Gabriel (Author) Aug 20, 2021 21:45:40

That is a GREAT score! Pretty sure you will be on the very first draw, congrats! Loved the name hahaha

Carlo Aug 22, 2021 03:28:18

Hello Gabriel, First of all, you're a absolute hero, helping everyone with their questions the way you do, writing this excellent FSW clarification article and keeping up-to-date graphs in your '460' article! My question is going to be a bit different than the usual ones: I'm a European who straight after graduation was able to go through the US immigration system (known to be one of the more draconic systems around) through H1-B, and later a company sponsored Green Card. After many years of hard work and specializing in my field, I've been able to hit a position where with a fair amount of confidence I can say that I'm in pretty good demand within my field, and especially my particular niche job market. My spouse is in a fairly similar situation. However, we're now getting to a point in life where we need to prioritize family future more than our career situations. I'm sure I don't have to explain that, especially with 2020 and 2021 being the way they were, the US is ... well, not ideal for that. Now, given our situation and especially the consideration that both of us made it through the pretty harsh US immigration system, we figured Canada might be keen on giving people like us a go in Canada, so we've been signing up for EE. However, we've realized that we might've been quite overconfident in our assumptions, since despite our very high baseline scores on Education + Language 1 (CRS A) and perfect bonus scores for CRS C, various factors that are (mostly) out of our control or a catch 22 (age, work experience in Canada, lack of French language skills) we're pretty much stuck topping out at a score of 400-450. For people in our situation, even things like learning French at a level that would nett us a score increase sufficient for acceptance under FSW will likely not cut it anymore to compete with the average scores necessary for CEC+FSW, as per your own graph on this page for the last 6 years. If you would be so kind, what are some of the advices you would extend for people in situations like ours? We've considered some things like PNP sponsorship, but British Columbia would be the only place we'd consider over our countries of origin .. and well, we assume attaining PNP sponsorship for BC would pretty much run into the same considerations (at least age + Canada work experience) as FSW/CEC? In your perspective, is having a job offer in Canada lined up and waiting (i.e. 200 bonus points) to be pretty much the only viable option for people in a situation like ours, or is there any other considerations we might be overlooking? Thank you very much for your help, both with my question and the whole community's.

Gabriel (Author) Aug 24, 2021 22:08:02

Hi Carlo! Wow, that was hands down the best comment/question ever! Thanks for that! We were on a very similar situation as yours! We lived on the US for 3 years under L1 visas, and with company-sponsored GC lined up, but still decided to come up here :) But yeah, US immigration is a nightmare, mostly because it's a bit unpredictable. Canadian immigration system, on the other hand, is very predictable and the rules are clear. But it doesn't make it any easy depending on the optics (easy to understand, still hard to go through it). That said, good thing that you realized that at an early point! Going into specifics, I'm afraid there is no way around it other than what you seem to be already doing, which is work on the score, and try to find paths that work for you. If after running all possible scenarios, you keep hitting dead ends, 2 options are left: 1 - Go in as a student, and try to become a PR after some Canadian experience. 2 - Job offer. On your case, being on the US, and as you seem to be at a good professional point, GC and all, I honestly believe you have a third option: 3 - Get a job offer from within the company you already work. Meaning, prioritize jobs (still on the US) on companies that have business here in Canada, and then try to build your way into being transfered here. I know 3 options kinda stink, and I wish I could come up with a PNP gem that would be faster, but I'm afraid I don't have anything. That said, maybe a consultant might be a good help too, those guys know all the ins and outs of the system! What I'm about to say is super personal, but here it goes anyway: US is a huge country with super different places/states/cultures within it. Have you considered just moving states into something that would be better for you, for an example? In your situation (GC in hands, and no PR), I think that's what I'd probably do. Example, we used to live in Houston, TX, and it's amazing how the lifestyle, quality, even costs, is similar to Calgary. Health care is a different subject though hahahah. Awesome to know a bit more about you man, really! Wish we could talk these things over a beer!

jasmin Aug 23, 2021 19:18:08

HI Gabriel I have a question about 2025!!! do you think that the minimum CRS score in 2025 will be about 490 or higher?

Gabriel (Author) Aug 24, 2021 22:11:30

Damnn that's a long time ahead!! I can't even say what I'll have for lunch tomorrow hahahahha Anyway, here goes my 2 cents: Higher :D

jasmin Aug 25, 2021 08:01:21

OOHH god I hope it won't happen. if the minimum CRS score exceeds 490 , just few people can apply for FSW.

Gabriel (Author) Aug 30, 2021 15:39:29

I know what you mean, but who knows, we might get a huge invitation round coming our way, which would make it drop! Hoping for the best here, but preparing for the worst (as always :D)

Samar Khan Aug 26, 2021 13:24:17

Hello Gabriel . You are Great Help First of All . My Question Is As per you *460 Score Article* There are 8583 Candidates that Has 481 Scores or Above . As Per My Understanding there is no chance for 480 CRS Scores Or Low in Next FSW Draw . What do you Say

Gabriel (Author) Aug 30, 2021 16:03:34

Hi Samar, glad to be helping! The CRS score for next draw will depend on the number of people invited. If they invite 30k (like they did for CEC earlier this year), score would drop to 460's. Because there's around 30k people with score > 460. Makes sense?

Samar Khan Aug 26, 2021 13:25:24

Hello Gabriel . You are Great Help First of All . My Question Is As per you *460 Score Article* There are 8583 Candidates that Has 481 Scores or Above . And there is Only 3k to 5k Candidates Will Get Visas . As Per My Understanding there is no chance for 480 CRS Scores Or Low in Next FSW Draw . What do you Say

Gabriel (Author) Aug 30, 2021 16:04:32

Hi Samar, glad to be helping! Just repeating the answer to the previous comment :) The CRS score for next draw will depend on the number of people invited. If they invite 30k (like they did for CEC earlier this year), score would drop to 460's. Because there's around 30k people with score > 460. Makes sense?

Divakar Jain Aug 26, 2021 16:41:59

Great informative article! Thanks Gabriel.

Gabriel (Author) Aug 30, 2021 16:04:56

Hey Divakar, awesome, thanks for the nice feedback :)

Chrone Aug 31, 2021 04:49:53

Hi Gabriel , do you if the Ontario Tech draw will be done soon? I have a score of 468 and I'm a Software developer so I'm waiting for that

Chrone Aug 31, 2021 04:55:08

and i noticed they usually call a range of scores if my score exceeds that range , does that mean i wont be called?

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 18:58:06

Hi, I really don't know, it's a matter of looking on past draws and try to figure out a pattern. For an example, we know that federal draws are happening around every 15 days. Have you checked OINP past draws to see if there's such a pattern? About the range, I heard some people saying that they fit the criteria but had a score bigger than the range invited, therefore didn't receive an invitation. I have the impression that they might be missing one ore more eligibilities requirements, but I might be wrong. I've added a note here to try to get that answer. If I do, I'll post here something about it. Sorry, wish I could help more on these 2 questions, but it's hard to keep track of all the PNPs :D

Extremely anxious Sep 02, 2021 12:24:10

Hi Gabriel, awesome work here man. Thanks for having the patience with us and your articles are brilliant. Question 1: my CRS score has been coming differently on diff websites which should I go by? The one by .ca the official website is the lowest actually. Secondly, I have a 2.4 year fulltime work ex, I’m on a break right now, but if I start looking for jobs again do I have to do the exact same kind of work again for it to be considered? If it’s a separate kind of work within the social sciences that does not get added to my work ex then right? Also, can I do a job now that doesn’t align with my first fulltime work experience that is essentially giving me the 2.4 years? Do I also list that for my express entry won’t that complicate matters? The thing is I need to start working again in the time being but I’m not at all sure that it will be the exact same thing that I was doing before, though the broader field might remain the same (might, I’m applying everywhere depends on what I get) ? Please help me out. Because even with more work ex unless it’s the exact same thing I guess I won’t be able to add this to my work ex to make it 3.

Extremely anxious Sep 04, 2021 09:18:22

Because the NOC code has to remain the same across your jobs for your total work ex to be considered as 3 years right? Asking only coz of the NOC dilemma.

Extremely anxious Sep 04, 2021 09:19:41

Also they say continuous work, so if I took a yearly break and rejoined the workforce after an year, that doesn’t get considered anymore? What do they mean by ‘continuous’?

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:01:06

Hi there, sorry for the delay on answering this! Love the name btw hahahah. So, yeah, the work experience must be all under the same NOC (the one that you are applying) for it to count! And by continous, they mean like a normal job. One hour today and one hour in a week won't count. But if you have a normal job, take a break, and then come back, it should be totally fine!

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:01:50

Ah and the website to see the draws should always be this one:

Yuci Sep 04, 2021 08:07:25

Hi Gabriel. When do you think the FSW draws open "The express pool invitation". On the ircc web page its mentioned tentative 7th September. What do you think about it

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:03:39

Hi Yuci, sorry about the delay! I took so long that 7th sep is past lol, sorry again. But yeah, no draw happened... can you send me the link to that page? About my own prediction, man, I really really though it should be here by now... I still believe in it, but don`t really want to get anyone expectations too high, you know what I mean?

Nafiz Sep 07, 2021 02:40:36

Hi Gabriel, my wife's CRS score is 467. What do you think of her chances of getting an ITA?

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:05:04

Hey :) That`s a really good score! Although there are around 20k people ahead of her. It will all depend on the number of people they invite. In a summary, I think is a good score, but you guys should definetly try to boost it still.

Nafiz Sep 19, 2021 14:24:43

Thanks Gabriel. We have been looking at PNP as well. but it seems as though only Alberta, Ontario and Saskatchuan pull profiles from express entry pool. Any tips about how to get in the consideration set for other provinces? Thanks again

Gabriel (Author) Sep 21, 2021 18:42:17

Yeah, I'm really not sure, It's hard to keep track with all the PNPs. Most of them require either studies or job offer in the province, so you'd really need to fish around their websites to try to find the ones that might have doors open (as you already did it seems). The only one I can remember from the top of my head is that BC Tech program - they make it easier for (tech) companies to make job offer to candidates, which might make it easier for candidates to get a job offer at the end. Not sure if you are in tech though - that program is only for specific 29 professions :\

rozy Sep 08, 2021 08:20:33

hi my score is 403.what are the chances for pnp? my noc code is 2173

Supreme Leader Sep 13, 2021 23:39:29

How on earth can you get PNP at 404? Even if everyone in PNP had 0 CRS, a nomination certificate which you can only get via a job or through the province will give you +600 points. You would need an actual nomination certificate, if you have one then your score would be 1004...

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:06:47

Hi! for FSW it doesn`t really matter the code, as long as it`s NOC A or B, which yours is! But 403 is definetly not a very solid score, so whatever you can do to boost it, you should go for it :\

Ann Maria Sep 10, 2021 06:00:39

Hi Gabriel, thanks for your information. Also can you do a detailed article on how to improve scores by taking up French test who has a CLB 9 IELTS score. We have a score of 471 in FSW now ,but by October 3rd we will go down by 5 points. To improve our score french is an option but a lot of confusion with it.

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:08:19

Happy birthday in advance! That age points thing really stinks... But you are on the right track trying to figure out a way to make up for it. I've took note here on the (not so) little to-do list, and will write something about it :) thanks for the suggestion on a topic!

Supreme Leader Sep 13, 2021 22:47:53

I pray that FSW draws don't resume until the majority of the CEC candidates have been cleaned out, or that the government has a mix of CEC-only and FSW draws. It's quite scary being in the broader pools where you're competing with 20-year-olds who have PhDs and 500+ CRS points but have never set foot in Canada. Meanwhile, I have a low CRS score (431 when I hit one year for CEC) and other immigrants at my company who came here on FSWs can't even perform as well as me at the same job.

Gabriel (Author) Sep 14, 2021 19:09:53

I know exactly what you mean... Just today we got a CEC with minimum of 462, which as you said, is getting to the point where you are just competing with everybody else from FSW once no-program-specified comes back. Considering that you are already in Canada, maybe try to find a PNP that your canadian experience makes you elgible for it!

Nirmal Jain Sep 16, 2021 10:31:27

When will the FSW entry start ? My score is 485 and I applied on march 10 2021 I havent got any reply yet Its almost been 6 months since I applied

Gabriel (Author) Sep 21, 2021 18:33:08

That's the million dollar question right there! I was super optimistic by the time I wrote this article, but now with COVID cases going up again, who knows! But hey, 485 is a great score, I think it's only a matter of time for you. Really wish we knew what their plan is, but it's all just foggy right now :\

koko Sep 17, 2021 07:56:33

I applied back in January with a score of 549, I was expecting an ITA the week after I applied; but there has been no FSW draws since... Next Jan my profile expires; I was wondering if there was any precedence where they extend the profile if there has been no FSW draws for the entire year?

Gabriel (Author) Sep 21, 2021 18:34:21

Hi Koko, You can just create a new profile :) you won't be impacted in any way for that. Make sure you take some screenshots of the current profile, so that it's easier for you to fill up all the forms!

JamieG Sep 17, 2021 23:59:46

Is there any chance for a 360-point CRS score to be successful in the EE draw for FSW?

Gabriel (Author) Sep 21, 2021 18:34:57

Hi Jamie, yeah... as I mentioned on the other page, I really don't see it happening for 360 :(

Akron93(Guest) Sep 21, 2021 06:00:36

IS there any chance for an FSW soon say in Sept or early Oct? will be dropping 6 points due to my age making it real tight. Now with the outcome of election results, decline in covid and the vaccination 's reach could we starting seeing FSWs?

Gabriel (Author) Sep 21, 2021 18:36:29

There is a chance, but honestly, with COVID cases skyrocketing here again, I really don't know how likely it is for that to happen! All super foggy now... But again, there is a chance, I'm just not as optimistic as I was at the time I wrote this article :\

Shrey Sep 23, 2021 17:48:15

My Score in 492 and I am eagerly waiting for the next FSW draw.

Gabriel (Author) Sep 28, 2021 14:20:25

Damn, that is a fine score!! Congrats!! Sure it's just a matter of time - ITA is on the way! Congrats again :)

Miller Sep 29, 2021 16:31:21

Hey Gabriel, My score is 502 but my IELTS score would expire in November and it took me 10 IELTS attempts to get a score like 9,9,9,7.5. Are there any chances of having a FSW draw before November. My age is 36 so obviously its not helping either. Thanks!!

Gabriel (Author) Oct 01, 2021 15:06:17

Wow that's a great score! And damnnn 10 IELTS attempts, congratulations on the persistence! Man candidates like yourself are the ones that make it, IMO. If your EE profile expires, I'd say just take some screenshots (so it's easier to fill it all over again), and create a new one. No harm on that. The age, not much we can do... that rule really stinks... Congrats again on the great score!

Reynolds Oct 03, 2021 04:54:15

Hey Gabriel, Has there ever been any FSW draw with CRS 440 points ?

Gabriel (Author) Oct 07, 2021 21:28:28

Hi! Yeah, it sure has! I got in through FSW with 427 points back in April 2017 :)

Paniz Oct 04, 2021 19:47:24

Hello:)Can I open an express entry profile with less than a year of work experience (like 6 months) or no experience at all?:(

Gabriel (Author) Oct 07, 2021 21:29:15

Hi! I don't think you can... But to be 100% sure, do this official eligibility test! It will tell you the definitive answer:

Urvi Oct 07, 2021 07:47:07

Hi, my crs score is 426. Just want to confirm how many draws occur in a year or month and the number of intakes per draw. Also do you think that they might take all candidates of the ee profile to meet their targeted intake FY 2021? Thanks a lot for your help and advices.

Gabriel (Author) Oct 07, 2021 21:30:53

Hi! I don't think they will take all candidates from EE pool, because the target includes other programs (like family sponsorship, refugees, etc). On this page there are ALL the draws since EE started, back in 2015:

MJ Oct 12, 2021 19:55:05

Hi my CRS score is 476 but I turn 31 in Jan 22 which means my score drops to 471. What do you think are my chances?

Gabriel (Author) Oct 25, 2021 14:24:59

Hi, you have around 20k people ahead of you, so it's not thaaaat many - chances will all depend on when FSW will be back, and how many people they will invite. I'd try to make up for those lost points in the meanwhile - easier said than done, I know!

MJ Oct 12, 2021 20:11:16

My CRS score is 476 but I will turn 31 in Jan 22, which means it would drop down to 471. What are my chances in the FSW

Devika Oct 13, 2021 22:40:38

My score is 475. and i will be turning 30 in june 2022, hence will loose som epoints. my husband is 32. what is the chnace of me getting an ITA.? How much should i have to wait.?

Gabriel (Author) Oct 25, 2021 14:26:12

Hi Devika, as I was saying on another comment, there are around 20k people ahead of you, so chances are real. About waiting, I'd probably wait in your case, but also trying to increase the score while doing it. Also maybe doing some research on possible PNPs

Jeshi Oct 14, 2021 07:09:22

Hi, Is there any chance that the draw occurs this month? And if we get invited, when can we expect our landing? Thanks

Gabriel (Author) Oct 25, 2021 14:27:18

Hi, there are chances, sure! but who knows what they are planning... Wish they'd be more communicative. About the processing times, in a pre-covid scenario it would be 6 months. But now I heard of people waiting for almost 2 years, it's crazy!

Yuci Oct 18, 2021 12:20:15

Since all international flights resume and all borders open up for tourist and travel.. what do you think now will the fsw open atleast by November

Gabriel (Author) Oct 25, 2021 14:27:58

Man I sure hope so! But I've been wrong so many times on this subject, I honestly rather say I just don't know :(

Anonymous Oct 21, 2021 03:52:32

Hi sir, I am a SCADA / PLC Engineer. I am an instrumentation and Control engineer (both Job and Qualification - outside Canada). However, my job duties do not exactly match the main duties of NOC 2133. I am a Masters degree holder (outside Canada). Kindly guide me on what NOC should I choose?

Gabriel (Author) Oct 25, 2021 14:30:10

Hi, nice! I work with SCADA too :) For oil and Gas. Someone would really have to look into your profile with more details to see which NOC you should go to - maybe a consultant. But you wrote it doesn't match "exactly". TBH, sometimes it doesn't match 100%, and that's normal. It's more of making sure that's the closest one, I guess. Makes sense? Again, a consultant might be the best shot if you want to be 100% sure of doing the right thing.

Anonymous Oct 21, 2021 04:01:35

My present CRS is 482. It will drop to 477 by January 2022. I submitted my Express entry profile this week only. But does my age after submission of Express entry profile affect my chance of getting an ITA if the next FSW draw is after Jan 2022?

Gabriel (Author) Oct 25, 2021 14:31:18

Hi. Unfortunatly, it does affect. The day you celebrate your birthday, your EE score will drop automatically, even if it's after the submission :(

luaybfd97 Oct 29, 2021 19:09:42

Hello Gabriel! I recently achieved a score of 481 after my second IELTS attempt, something that I have been working on for a year now! However, while 481 is a high CRS score, it doesn't have the same weight as in pre-pandemic draws, with more than 11,200 people ahead of me (and still increasing with every FSW draw delay as more people enter the pool :/). Looking at past FSW draws, you can see an obvious trend where the minimum cut-off score is increasing every year. Do you think that we might reach a scenario where a score such as mine might not be enough anymore? especially when the continuing FSW "pause" is bloating the number of high scoring candidates and increasing the competition. I don't know if I'm being too pessimistic here; what do you think?

Gabriel (Author) Nov 03, 2021 04:31:44

Man first of all congrats on such a great score! Even for 2021 numbers, it is indeed a really good number! But I totally get what you are saying... Super frustrating to know that if it was a couple of years back you'd probably be here already. But it is what it is. I personally think that once the doors open again (FSW is back), the first draws will bring in the top scorers, and then everything will be back to "normal" levels again. Because yeah, every day people join the pool. But most are below 400. So you are competing with really a small number of people on the 480's range. It won't hurt to get a plan B ready just in case FSW takes too long to come back. But honestly I think you are in a really good place! Congrats again!

Masoud Nov 07, 2021 04:05:04

Hi, Thanks for your article, my score is 470 since I have no chance for PNP for my NOC is not included in PNP program, is there really any chance by considering too much people owning higher scores still waiting to be drawn for FSW?

Gabriel (Author) Nov 22, 2021 05:46:53

470 is not a bad score, but the EE candidate pool is really big currently, so there are around 25k people with a score bigger than that. There is a chance, but it will depend on how many people they call whenever FSW is back. If possible maybe see if you can get to 490 to be on a better position (easier said than done, I know)

Sélim Nov 12, 2021 12:56:15

Hi, my score is 521 so it seems I could have some chance when FSW is back. Do you think I should go for a PNP while waiting for FSW?

Gabriel (Author) Nov 22, 2021 05:47:35

Wow congrats on such a great score!! Yeah, if you are eligible for some PNP stream, I think you should go for it! you'd still be running for FSW, so nothing to loose!

Dave Nov 21, 2021 18:18:29

Hi, my score dropped from 481 to 476 due to my age, if they don't restart draws soon not only am I afraid it would keep dropping, but my ielts and teff exams would expire too! How are my chances with 476?

Gabriel (Author) Nov 22, 2021 05:49:23

Around 15 to 20k people with a score bigger than 476, so that's not bad at all. Chances of ITA after FSW reopen are real, but it's not a sure thing. I know it's hard, but if you could boost it up, maybe to 490's, that would put you on a safe spot. French is usually a good way to get that boost

Dave Nov 22, 2021 18:40:46

Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I have the highest possible score in French and I can only get 3 more points if I further improve my ielts, so I don't think it's worth retaking

Aditya Nov 29, 2021 10:05:52

Hi Gabriel, Thanks for sharing this article here. My score is 470 and right now but my Birthday is 26 Feb. I will loose points after Feb 2022. Is there any chance of me getting ITA? If yes, then what according to you are my chances of getting that before 26th Feb?

Gabriel (Author) Dec 06, 2021 05:00:55

Hi, it will all depend on when an FSW draw will come, and how big it will be. You have around 40k people ahead of you, which is quite a big number... I'd definetly try to increase that score a bit. I know, I know... easier said than done, right?

HASSAN Dec 02, 2021 14:30:51

Hi Gabriel, Is CRS 468 still a good score considering the current express entry pool... my noc code is 1111 , is there any chance for OINP invitation? I can afford to study in Canada Please advise on the best possible way? Is my canadian dream over?

Gabriel (Author) Dec 06, 2021 05:02:58

Hi, 468 used to be a really good score, but currently not that much! It will all depend on how many people they will invite once FSW draws resume. About the best way for you, my recomendation is you get a consultant that will look into your profile and tell you the best route for you :) Probably not the answer you want, but really what I believe to be your best option (well, best after DIY research, of course :P)

HASSAN Dec 02, 2021 14:30:58

Hi Gabriel, Is CRS 468 still a good score considering the current express entry pool... my noc code is 1111 , is there any chance for OINP invitation? I can afford to study in Canada Please advise on the best possible way? Is my canadian dream over?

Suhag patel Dec 05, 2021 08:48:25

My crs score is 478 Howmuch chances of fsw draw?? When will start fsw draw??

Gabriel (Author) Dec 06, 2021 05:03:43

Hi, no idea when FSW will resume... But 478 is not a bad score! "only" 12k people in front of you! Nothing that a big draw can't solve :)

Z Jan 07, 2022 17:30:40

My CRS Score is 464. I'm 31 years old, from UK with a Masters. NOC code 1311 with my program being FSW. What are my chances??

jig Feb 18, 2022 05:44:31

My crs score is 474 How much chances of fsw draw?? When will start fsw draw??

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